since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.
for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.
i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.
still thinking Thanks for sharing that. I too stopped praying long before I left the Watchtower Society. It was not a conscious decision.
I guess that deep down my sub-conscious mind had worked out the state of play and stopped emotionally motivating me to pray.
“Which seems pretty stupid since you are the biggest supporters of Israel in the world. ”
It is precisely because the USA is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world that people are cautious about commenting on the increasing power of Jews in both Israel and the USA . It is accepted that Jews can publicly express their aversion to their children marrying unclean, uncircumcised gentiles. Make a negative comment about Jews and if you are in say, the entertainment industry, you may never work again. Mention that Jews are becoming too powerful and you will be compared to Hitler.
Just look at the fuss Jews are making in Germany because the government has recently ruled that child circumcision can only be carried out for medical reason. They intend to ignor the ruling. In the UK we are more outspoken about threats to our culture, yet the thought police are working on Brits to silence d issent .
does that sound harsh ?
well lets see now ,i was a faithful slave/servant/ member /volunteer (oops cant say that ) for 33 years , and i was taught to hate all that was bad , any and everything the watchtower said was bad , including my own shortcomings and sinful tendencies of youth , to be approved by jehovah i had to hate what was bad ,especially , false religion , not just any religion but false religion.
now while i had my ups and downs with my own imperfections ,sinfull state and desires of youth , i maintained a steadfast hatred of false religion.. now who were they saying was false religion , why it was the various jewish faiths (which jw`s had a foundation on ) certainly the eastern religions ,hinduism ,shintoism ,the islamic , definetly the african demonistic practices ,as well as the south american superstitious religions,in other words every religion other than the jehovah`s witnesses.. but they have a special hatred of christendom and an even more pronounced hatred of the catholic religion.
smiddy Perhaps the fault lies with the god that Jehovah's Witnesses follow; the vengeful Hebrew desert god Jehovah, who exacts exclusive devotion. They desire to develop the same judgemental personality, and hate to be challenged. Its all in the bible. They have described Jesus as an obedient angel. The man in sandals is too nice for them to follow, so they stick with the big sky daddy.
They do indeed hate false religion, failing to understand that all religion is false.
May your gods go with you.
thats my opinion because the wts really has been preaching false information now for so long about the end times and armageddon soon.. also the doctrine that jesus chirt has taken a position over his earthly and heavenly kingdom in 1914 .... etc.
its been a winfall marketing scheme for such a long time, which now really doesn't have much leg to stand on.. time in conjunction with reality has made the wts's doctrines redundantly weak or useless more or less.. i'm even believing the leaders of the wts are even starting to know this for themselves.. the wts future and its main supporting pieces of literature, the watchtower and awake magazines may eventually be tossed aside.
for some new doctrines as well newly named pieces of literature .
The Watchtower Society is already altering to the new climate. Just two short meetings a week. No enforced hourly goal for ministry. Matters previously cast in stone are matters of conscience and this trend will continue. The magazines have been simplified and shrunk. In time they will have just one member’s only monthly magazine and leaflets for the public, they are almost there already.
As long as members turn up occasionally and buy a monthly magazine and a few annual books, the organization will continue to do well out of its 7,000,000 members plus bible studies. The easier it get, the more likely it is that members will stay.
This forum is a classic example of the mental gymnastic people will go through to hold onto impossible faith positions. Jehovah's Witnesses are well practiced at adjusting and compromising in order to cling to what they value. Hell, if it gets any easier - I may re-join!
witnesses, we were arrogant in regards to knowing all.
the answers to life mysteries.. i have learn to listen.
i have learn to think before i. speak and not put my foot into my mouth.. it,s a humbling experience.
Real ale must be served at the right temperature. Not warm, yet not chilled.
The staff at my local pub are expert at looking after their ales.
It is to me a church and as close to heaven as I'll ever be.
since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.
for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.
i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.
Thanks talesin. Didn't want you to be a thread-killer on my account.
witnesses, we were arrogant in regards to knowing all.
the answers to life mysteries.. i have learn to listen.
i have learn to think before i. speak and not put my foot into my mouth.. it,s a humbling experience.
It is foolish to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
if so, and it's the type that requires you to switch to 4wd, how often do you use that capability?
i know more than a few people with 4wd capability but never use it.
a couple of these folks don't even know what it's for.
No - in the UK we have roads to drive on.
since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.
for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.
i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.
It has been said before, but being automatically labelled an atheist for a lack of belief in a god seems absurd. If people positively believe in Christ, they are Christians; but to not believe in one of the many gods on offer through various church leaders, is a not a position, it is a negative. We can’t all wear a label for everything we do not believe in. I don’t believe in Satan either, but that does not make me an Asatanist.
I live my life and interact with other humans, enjoy the experience of living on the most beautiful planet known to humans. Short as life is, it is awesome to be a part of this evolving planet. I am perhaps, happy to be called a humanist because that infers a positive position towards my own kind.
We should be labelled for what we do believe in and what actions we take. Perhaps I am prepared to accept being labelled a humanist but I know nothing about gods, goddesses, demons or devils and don’t wish to wear a badge that indicates I am against things that do not exist. I have not taken a stand against gods; I simply view the concept as the stuff of fairy tales.
If you have read this far, thank you for letting me share. Now I can enjoy my godless weekend, exploring the pleasures of the flesh.
since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.
for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.
i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.
Considering the damage that religious faith has caused humans throughout history, ‘mind-rot’ seems an inadequately mild term.
